One More Time: MilanMilan's remarks on kghin
Peter Liu 2p (MilanMilan 9d) made some more provocative remarks about kghin 8d (Chi Hin Chan).
happened after MilanMilan lost yet
another game to kghin by time
(because of bad connection). You can see their game at the top: Black's play in
the upper left corner was quite desperate, and after move 88 (White H10) the
game seemed over. Yet, somehow, kghin managed to pull off a win.
Peter then called some of kghin's moves
"illegal", and said that he was a "hopeless child" from Hong Kong who had "lost
[his] spirit of a go player".
should be noted that, as Peter explained, his comments were meant to be about kghin's Go, and obviously not about his
life. Indeed, during the game, kghin actually added time (to compensate for the lag) to his opponent a few times,
which was a kind gesture. Nevertheless, Peter insisted that the game was
meaningless, and gave his own analyzes of kghin's
MilanMilan: his go career finished
asked to clarify this comment, Peter claimed that kghin's achievements were not impressive, since he has a "much
better environment" to learn Go compared to the youth of Europe; in addition, kghin can take part in tournaments in
Asia and has an 8-dan pro teacher.
Regarding kghin's achievement at the World
Amateur Go Championship (4th place), MilanMilan declared that it "doesn't mean anything" for the same reasons: he had already been learning Go for eight
years and has a good teacher; Thomas Debarre (from France) also took 4th place in
the previous WAGC and that, in contrast, was a great achievement because he
didn't have the same opportunities to play with professionals.
In fact, MilanMilan claims that in Asia it should take three years "at most" to reach kghin's level. (Peter noted in passing
that when he was 14 he could give kghin reverse komi...) He says that two years
ago kghin had the chance to "be great",
if he had done it right. But now he thinks that he will not improve much more,
because "Go is a game about spirit".
for the "illegal" moves kghin supposedly makes, MilanMilan says that we know
they are "wrong" and "ugly" for an 8d. He stated that 9-dans don't make the
same moves as kghin, and says that some
of those moves are "very bad", but adds that kghin may not know that yet.
Hin Chan (kghin)
asked why he picks on kghin in
particular, Peter replied: "he is Chinese; I am more strict with him because I
hope he can be great". On the one hand, he says that it's a matter of principle, and that kghin disappointed him. On the other hand, he seems to fear that kghin, just like many other young
players with potential, could "become lost", and so he doesn't want to sound
Peter doesn't want to upset anyone: "I am not very strong, I also made
mistakes, I want to win all my games... but I insist on my principle".