One More Time: MilanMilan's remarks on kghin

Peter Liu 2p (MilanMilan 9d) made some more provocative remarks about kghin 8d (Chi Hin Chan).

That happened after MilanMilan lost yet another game to kghin by time (because of bad connection). You can see their game at the top: Black's play in the upper left corner was quite desperate, and after move 88 (White H10) the game seemed over. Yet, somehow, kghin managed to pull off a win.

Peter then called some of kghin's moves "illegal", and said that he was a "hopeless child" from Hong Kong who had "lost [his] spirit of a go player".

It should be noted that, as Peter explained, his comments were meant to be about kghin's Go, and obviously not about his life. Indeed, during the game, kghin actually added time (to compensate for the lag) to his opponent a few times, which was a kind gesture. Nevertheless, Peter insisted that the game was meaningless, and gave his own analyzes of kghin's Go future:

MilanMilan: his go career finished already

When asked to clarify this comment, Peter claimed that kghin's achievements were not impressive, since he has a "much better environment" to learn Go compared to the youth of Europe; in addition, kghin can take part in tournaments in Asia and has an 8-dan pro teacher.

Regarding kghin's achievement at the World Amateur Go Championship (4th place), MilanMilan declared that it "doesn't mean anything" for the same reasons: he had already been learning Go for eight years and has a good teacher; Thomas Debarre (from France) also took 4th place in the previous WAGC and that, in contrast, was a great achievement because he didn't have the same opportunities to play with professionals.

 In fact, MilanMilan claims that in Asia it should take three years "at most" to reach kghin's level. (Peter noted in passing that when he was 14 he could give kghin reverse komi...) He says that two years ago kghin had the chance to "be great", if he had done it right. But now he thinks that he will not improve much more, because "Go is a game about spirit".

As for the "illegal" moves kghin supposedly makes, MilanMilan says that we know they are "wrong" and "ugly" for an 8d. He stated that 9-dans don't make the same moves as kghin, and says that some of those moves are "very bad", but adds that kghin may not know that yet.

 Chi Hin Chan (kghin)

When asked why he picks on kghin in particular, Peter replied: "he is Chinese; I am more strict with him because I hope he can be great". On the one hand, he says that it's a matter of principle, and that kghin disappointed him. On the other hand, he seems to fear that kghin, just like many other young players with potential, could "become lost", and so he doesn't want to sound too harsh.

Indeed, Peter doesn't want to upset anyone: "I am not very strong, I also made mistakes, I want to win all my games... but I insist on my principle".